Interview with Terry Zhao, Breeder of Heritage Toy Poodles
- Please tell us a little bit about yourself. Where do you live? How many years in dogs? How many years as a breeder? What is your kennel name?
- What are the hallmarks of your breed and why are they important for maintaining breed type?
- In your opinion, are there enough puppy homes to support breeding a litter this year?
- How have you implemented new technologies in science and communications as a breeder?
- In your community, have you noticed a change in the public’s perception of purebred dogs?
- Have you noticed any trends in the sport? Anything to be concerned about?
- What are some of the positive changes you’ve seen in the sport in recent years?
Terry Zhao
1. My name is Terry Zhao, and I’m originally from China. I started breeding and showing Toy Poodles in 2004 and moved to the United States in early 2013. Since then, I’ve had the privilege of working with and learning from Luke and Diane Ehricht for over 12 years. We are located outside of Toledo, Ohio. I’ve been breeding for 21 years under the kennel name 传承 (Heritage in English), with a focus on preserving correct type, temperament, health, and soundness in Toy Poodles.
2. To me, true breed type in Toy Poodles goes beyond just appearance, it includes proper movement. A Toy Poodle should move like a Poodle, not just like a small dog trotting around the ring. Unfortunately, I often see Toy Poodles with movement that doesn’t reflect the Breed Standard. All three varieties of Poodles share the same Standard, with size being the only difference. They should all move with the same correct structure and carriage. I place a strong emphasis on elegant, balanced movement with reach and drive, and a beautiful head carriage that complements their presence. That said, movement should never be overdone. There’s a clear line between correct, effortless movement and exaggerated, extreme movement that strays from function and soundness. I strive to produce Toy Poodles with beautiful breed type and graceful, correct movement that is true to the Poodle’s purpose and Standard.
3. Yes. I am very selective about when and how often I breed, typically producing only one or two litters per year. With thoughtful planning and a focus on quality over quantity, I’m able to ensure that each puppy is placed in a carefully chosen, responsible home.
4. I utilize genetic testing to make informed breeding decisions that prioritize health and longevity. We also rely on reproductive specialists and advanced veterinary care to support our breeding program. On the communication side, social media and virtual platforms have made it easier to stay connected with puppy families, fellow breeders, and the broader dog show community—something that’s become especially valuable in recent years.
5. Yes, there’s been a growing awareness of the importance of responsible breeding and the role of preservation breeders. Many people now understand that purebred dogs offer predictability in size, coat, temperament, and health screening—qualities that make them excellent companions. That said, there’s still work to do to educate the public about the differences between ethical breeders and commercial operations.
6. Okay, I have a few concerns: One trend I’ve noticed is a decline in the number of new breeders entering the sport, especially among younger generations. This is concerning, as the future of our breeds depends on the next wave of dedicated preservationists. There are also challenges around the rising cost of showing and breeding, which can make it harder for small, quality-focused programs to continue.
The other trend I find concerning is the growing acceptance of extremes—whether in coat, movement, or outline. In Toy Poodles, for example, some dogs are being rewarded for flashy, overdone movement that may look impressive at first glance but isn’t correct for the breed. True Poodle movement should be effortless and elegant, not exaggerated. It’s important that we as breeders and judges stay grounded in the Standard and remember that refinement and moderation are key to sound, lasting structure.
7. I’ve seen more collaboration and mentorship within the breeder community, especially through social media and breed clubs. There’s also been an increase in educational resources, both online and at events, which help to support exhibitors and breeders at all levels. The continued recognition of Performance events and Companion titles for traditionally Conformation-focused breeds like the Toy Poodle is also a positive development—it shows the full versatility of our breeds.
Also, I’ve seen more open discussion about structure and soundness, and I think that’s a good thing. As more breeders, handlers, and judges focus on correct movement and proper conformation—not just flashy presentation—we’re seeing better awareness of what really matters in the long term. I also appreciate the growing emphasis on balance and moderation in type and movement. These are positive steps that can help to preserve the integrity of the breed while still allowing for elegance and beauty in the ring.
Specific health concerns for Poodles are also being addressed more in recent years than when I first started.